Category: <span>Christianity</span>

Why the blogs are dry at the moment: THEORY ONE

Person: When I had people to talk to, I had no use for the blog, I couldn’t be bothered.
Bec: I had lots of people to talk to and still blogged.
Bec: It’s almost as if God is in someway trying to shove me into ‘experience’ rather than thought
Person: Oo well why dont you blog about your experiences?
Bec: No just generally. I do blog about experiences
Bec:I dont know, is this a ‘learn to feel’ properly time?

WHO KNOWS!!!!

*sniggers at lameness*

…more to come, someday?

Blogging Christianity General

I’m not quite sure how to write about last night justly.

Young adults was very interesting. Jess H led it by running through a heap of… I guess you might call them maxims/principles re: the Christian life. Dualism > Holiness, Self Governed > Spirit Governed…
I can’t say I fully agreed with everything shared (whether that’s just due to insufficient thrashing of each out – there was a lot to cover) and my ‘filter’ was running full steam with many ‘Yes, but’s’. She did however do a very good job with what she had. I have much to think about and more to explore in depth. Three big cheers for this, I love it when I get something to take away.

Macca’s afterwards. The typical crew hung around later, Geoff, Tim O, Laura, Analise and myself. After the quiz and other random moments that had me laughing pretty hard (and I wont explain or it’d embarass Tim and make me look like an immature kid for laughing at fart related, bench seat vibration things).

Conversation took a smooth turn. Tim, Geoff, I and Laura (a bit) had a beautifully, intense, a little firey/confronting, deep conversation around erm… the ways of communicating things, open dialogue, love God – love your neighbor, community (wow too much was covered… I can’t even remember it all!). The kind of brilliant passionate conversation/debate/challenge that in participating in, makes me feel utterly alive.

If there’s one thing that gets me really excited and feeling like an evening has been spent in absolute best way possible is to have a conversation of that sort.

Yeah, I really can’t do the time justice.

Christianity General Life

Hebrews 11-13

I’ll be selfish, this one is really here just for me as a reminder.

Christianity General Life

I’ve been reading the book, Mass Culture: Eucharist and Mission in a post-modern world (edited by Peter Ward) for a few weeks now. I’m still only halfway through and the bottom corners are going to be pretty stuffed by the end of it. (Top corner fold for marks my place, bottom corner for marking something interesting like a quote).

The book is a collection of ‘article’/chapters around the themes of Communion and Mission and Postmodernism (oddly enough) and how they interrelate, written by a variety of leaders from a variety of denominations. It’s facinating, pretty pleasing and enlightening stuff.

A couple of the points I’ve picked out so far (pretty much from one particular chapter) as worth exploring more or just simply interesting (here’s where I flick to the first lower corner fold and try find on the page what I found interesting)….

“Another element of post-modernism invites its audience to ‘enjoy the surface’ of life’s experiences because there is nothing beneath the surface. In other words, nothing is sacramental, nothing points beyond itself to anything else. Each experience is what it is or does ot you, there is nothing beyond. From this perspective the eucharist may give a sense of awe or of ancient community, but it can never be more than a sense, a vibe. Any such experience is understood as a feeling to be fleetingly enjoyed, it could never be more. So from this perspective, while the eucharist gives you a buzz, go for it. When it doesn’t and the ‘been there, done that, so this place as no more ot offer’ feeling comes over you, then move on to something stranger….
Life is understood as a perpetual present, or rather a series of perpetual presents – a perpetual sequence of living for the moment. From this point of view, ‘the goal of life’ is ‘an endless pursuit of new experiences, values and vocabularies’.” (p.77)

“Worship can have the power to convert or (and alas, this is more frequent) to repel. It is not just that the conduct of worship can be amazingly incompeteten; it is that people have a very real sense of whether what is being offered is the genuine article or not.” -David Stancliffe (quoted p.82)

“Alan Kreider has pointed out that the significance of worship for the mission of the early church was not that it was attractive to outsiders, but that it helped to shape Christlike lives in the world, and these lives were profoundly attractive:
Worship, to which pagans were denied admission, was all important in the spread of the Church. It was important not because it was attractive, but because of it’s rites and practices… made differences in the lives and communities of the worshippers. It performed the function of re-forming those pagans who joined the Church into Christians, into distinctive people who lived in a way that was recognisably in the tradition of Jesus…. (p.86)

“‘Seeker-friendly’ worship is important, but it must be authentic Christian worship. First, and above all, worship is for God (Eph 5:19-20)… If either edification or evangelism usurp the God-directed focus of worship it ceases to be Christian worship…”

“There is the danger that post-modern people seek experience for its own sake, that they become not more then sensation gatherers, but an experienceless Christianity is not New Testament Christianity and will never commend the faith. Churchmaship may high or low; the worship may be liturgical or more spontaneous, the focus may be on the word or the Spirit, but there is no substitute for encountering the presence of the living God.
Once again, an over emphasis on accessibility my be unwise:
“Chrisitianity’s talent for shooting itself in the foot is nowhere better displayed than its recent drive to demystify itself. Afterall, who goes into a church to get reasonable? Mystery is precisely what used to draw the crowds; no wonder gates are down.”

“…An event in which the kingdom of God is actually present is a far cry from a constructivist view, for constructivism changes nothing beyond the mindset of the constructor. In Iain Bank’s novel “A Song of Stone”, his main character says: “All is construction in the end… But we are the naming beast, the animal that thinks with language, an all above is called what we choose, for lack of better terms, and everything we name means – as far as we are concerned – just waht we want it conote. There is a reciprocity o finsult for out name-calling here; for our fine defining words tame nothing in the end, and show we ever fall victim to th unseen grammar of life, we must brave the elements and suffer their indifference, fully requited in return.”
The eucharist, though offers a positive alternative to the ‘naming beast’, one in which eternal reality bites back. We are indeed ‘naming’ creatures (Gen 2:19), but our authority to name comes with a responsible relationship with God as his stewards. The eucharist offers an encounter with this living God…”

There is potentially too much right there to pick at something specific (if you would like me to poke around with one of them a bit more, I can do that – just let me know which). No promises either, who knows what tomorrow will bring 😉

I think it’s probably been most interesting looking at the influences of post-modernity in my own life and how I treat different situations that arise, how I respond to things, what I go out of my way to do or ‘experience’.

It’s fairly confronting in the way I often approach God. I do hope I’ve moved a bit beyond the ‘live for the experiences’ (sadly that in a way, that is or used to how I treat some of life). We can’t do the immature dismissal of God by believing our doubts when we cannot see him working, when we cannot hear him, cannot ‘find’ him. God exists despite our experiences or conceptions. But oh, it’s easy to get frustrated!

There is a great beauty and life in encountering our maker. It’s a richer and fuller comprehension of something if we can feel ‘part of it’, but the experience does not mean it ceases to exist after that point or didn’t exist before we got there.

Communion/Eucharist in itself is a brilliant way to encounter the grace of God in past, future and present – and no I haven’t ultimately worked out how I’d describe how exactly God is in communion, or whether it’s simply symbolic (which In some ways I think lessens it hohum – straying into controversial ground…)

I am pleased that communion is something I get to participate in, to ‘experience’ and to meet God in. I love it that we’ve made an effort in young adults to do this together.

To be really comfortable in my postmodernism, I have no problem saying that there is definitely something about those moments, there usually is! But we shouldn’t take up the position of not ‘having communion’ – just because we don’t feel like it, or feel it.

And there I’ll cease forcing my scattered thoughts on to you. Well done if you’ve read this far. Anyone care to borrow the book?

Christianity General

More ‘daily happenings’ for you to read, but as some of you like that… some time soon I’ll find the time to explore a few things I’ve been thinking about lately.

As a reminder to myself about what these will be:

  • Gratitude, not sure how I can forget this one as it keeps appearing all over the place!
  • Frustration
  • Stuff that came up on the Baxter Kruger evening (maybe)

So. I did somewhat explain half of yesterday. The other end of it was spent in the city with Jas, Paul and Samantha. I had great fun. The others hadn’t had lunch so Paul directed us all to a very cheap (but good! I know because I picked bits off their plates) popular Chinese place in the Port Phillip Arcade. We then went to Word bookstore.

On the way out Jas noticed a sign sitting at the counter,

“Don’t have time to read your bible? Get a verse a day sent to you on your mobile…”

Collective, “Ah no’s!” and as that kind of thing sets me on bordered outrage and I was relatively verbal about how terrible and pathetic it was. It’s something I do on the odd occasion and have to be careful as I’ve been known to mention how the food isn’t that great in the presence of waiters. As Sam put it, “She was only saying what we all were thinking”. Paul had a right old go at me for it later on and did the whole, “I can’t belive you did that!” business. Well, hello Paul – welcome to Rebecca, I sometimes-frequently do speak my mind like that. Interesting how it always happens so dramatically in Christian bookshops? The attitude of the signage was shocking, completely disgraceful. Getting a verse a day is not specifically wrong, but advocating not having time to read the Bible by supplementing it with one verse is hardly a standard anyone should bother to uphold! And the fact that it’s being advertised as such, well!

A brief visit to St. Pauls Cathedral, then I made them come with me to Starbucks because I like it there. Sat and chatted for ages. Very funny all up and very enjoyable. It’s been really good to spend more time in person with Paul if you ask me, seeing as I mostly just know him online and in a ‘meeting’ environment. Sam I always like spending time with! And it was great to see Jas again before he headed back.

We then wandered up to the Old Melbourne Gaol. I was kicking myself I didn’t have my camera with me. Not worth paying to go inside otherwise 😉 We didn’t go in, although I would very much like to one day as it’s something I’ve never done.

Paul pointed out an advertisment: Real Life, Real Values, Real Something Else.
And commented on how, “Well, society obviously can’t trust those things to be authentic/true/valid anymore.” Very interesting. I might go back and get a photo next time, if it’s still there. It reminded me a bit of the huge ‘Want Everything‘ advertisement which is also in the city.

Sam and I got the train back.

This morning’s one lecture was for this semester’s elective. WWW and the Internet which I chose back at the start of the year. A change from taking photography subjects but wow am I impressed. After the brief one hour, I’m getting the idea that perhaps I’ll actually learn something new by doing this! Much excitement as my biggest gripe with my course so far has been the ‘lack of’ discovering anything incredibally new. Yes, I did learn a lot about analogue photography last semester, but to be honest it wasn’t the worlds most interesting class – it did have good assignments. This class/lecture/tute etc. looks pretty decent.

It is in a rather massive lecture hall for only 40/50 people. Everyone spread out apart from everyone else doing the loner thing. Justin came in late, so he’s there, as are Joe and Riley. Huw is meant to be in the subject too – so a few familiar faces which was nice! Lecturer seemed organised and had pretty specific objectives. Whoopdedoo! (and I’m not being sarcastic). Good things, good things.

Home before 11:30 due to some immaculate bus timing! Not bad for a ‘day at uni’.

Christianity General Life